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We are looking at manufacturing a line of tire warmers. I am looking for feedback on tire warmers. What brand do you use and what do you like or dislike about the warmers. Do you have any idea's on what would make it work better? What are the most important features to you? Any and all feedback is welcome!
Thanks!
Dan
I use some really ratty ass old c-hawks I got used for a song. Most important: function. Come up to temp and maintain. A close second, durability. My front is all safety pinned together, both have scorch marks from the po, and they still work. I'm not a bells and whistles kinda guy, but a tiny display of the actual temp inside would be cool. I'm sure you'll get no shortage of volunteers, but I'd guinea pig a set.
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I have a set of Chicken hawk digital with the boxes. They work great but the elastic loses its elasticity and needs to be replaced resulting in a warmer that fights you when trying to stretch it over the tire. I also have Woodcraft digitals and they work great as well although the velcro seems to wear out rather quickly.
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Woodcraft dual temps. Love them, Except for the cheap ass switch they use. Always breaking.....
The fact they "shut off" when you take them off...Priceless
The high sides to help keep heat in...
That is all...
Woodcrafts are awesome save for the lack of strain reliefs where cords enter/exit switches/warmers/etc. Only way you're going to compete with them and Chicken Hawk is to improve on reliability and not go up on cost I think.
CHR, simplicity at its finest.
No crazy temp displays to add to the cost, always reliable, green/ orange light to show if it's up to temp, 3 temp settings on both front and rear (low, medium and hot), the "hot" setting is in fact hot.
About the only feature I'd add to would be the extended side skirts similar to the Woodcraft which I imagine helps greatly on windy days or in paddocks that don't necessarily have garage space.
I had some c-hawks and jsut sold them . I'm going to be trying Woodcraft out for my next set. I do like the skirt feature on the wood.
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Great feedback! Let me look into this more. We will work on fixing these issues. Price might be an issue... Our goal would be cheaper and fix some of these issues... keep the feedback coming. ALl idea's welcome!
ok, I see the big companies
chicken hawk
Woodcraft
how about
moto GP?
Suzuka?
JPR?
DMP?
Anyone use them? Is it fair to say that more tire warmers in the pits are woodcraft and Chicken Hawk brand? Is there a 3rd competitor? Are the quality of the cheaper ones that much worste or is it just they dont advertise etc...????
Thanks!
Woodcraft and Chicken Hawk for the win.
Suzuka is a division of chicken hawk. As I understand DMP, JPR and MotoGP are made by the same chinese manufacturer.
I personally was wondering if anyone here used the LP Hot Sox:
http://www.lockhartphillipsusa.com/s...ge=&featured=Y
How about this: Would people here be interested in a group buy? Would woodcraft want to put something together for us?
See some cats around with the thin looking tire sox too. But mostly c-hawks and woodcrafts.
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I agree. The Tire Sox look way to thin. I suppose I was wondering about Lockhart Phillips Hot Sox.
Otherwise, everyone I talked to owns the woodcrafts loves them - specially the safety feature.
Last edited by Eddie; 06-16-11 at 09:41 AM.
I saw that in the link. I was talking about the yellow ones. Those lp ones look like woodcraft clones to my eye.
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I've heard Bickle Racing warmers are top quality. I guess they are kind of like the Canadian equivalent to Woodcraft in that the people like to support their local companies who make good products.
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Ill check Bickle out...
I use DMP single temps. They didn't cost much, but the outward construction is durable and sturdy. Couldn't tell you about longevity yet, since I've just got a handful of days on them.
One thing I would like to see is a full size rear warmer for a 200/55 tire that actually covers the entire circumference of the bun. I know I'm splitting hairs here, but my rear leaves about a 2-3" area that gets overlapped with velcro but no heating element.
I posted a quick blurb about these warmers in the product review section...
http://mjmotogear.com/SINGLE-TEMP-TI...ERS-warmer.htm
Seem sturdy and well made... strong elastic... orange / green light for on / up to temp notification... get to temp in a reasonable amount of time... get my tires hot... and were only $148.50 shipped...
My cousin has been using his since last season... I just got mine and used them at the classic... they worked great... hopefully they last...
I want the cheapest shit you got. Make the tires hot. Dont give a fuck about the digital bullshit. All i want to know is via a little light that the things are on, and then another color to show up to temp.
KB
ON/UP to Temp- bigger light!
Side skirts.
That is all.
Oh yeah--------CHEAP!!!!
One thing that seems to matter is the thickness (insulation) to keep the heat in the tire. I've had some older thin Chicken Hawks and now I use Woodcraft. The Woodcrafts are thicker and seem to keep the heat in the tire hotter.
All depends on the application too, for trackdays you don't need to ensure your tire is getting to around 180 degree's, but racing you do want to ensure the tire carcass is getting hot for the first lap at race pace. I would imagine some warmers just burn the top of the tire and others maybe get the whole carcass hot. I think you would want to do some analysis on what the carcass temp gets too on different warmers. Just because the warmer gets hot doesn't mean the tire gets all the heat. I don't know much about the engineering just an observation I noted in using the different warmers.
Chris
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