oil filter too tight

[scr1be]

anybody ever have an oil filter that would just NOT come out?

i tried to do an oil change for the first time on my bike.

got a socket for the oil filter and tried to ratchet it out but it wouldn't go.

i was afraid i'd tweak the actual housing.

no idea what to do. i already drained the oil and couldn't do anything but add my new oil and left the old oil filter on

grr now i guess i have to go to the dealer and have them figure out how to take it off. i think the previous owner tightened the shit out of it instead of hand tightening it. i wanted to use an oil filter wrench but couldn't because on the cbr600rr 2007 there's a coolant tank and some other engine piece right next to it so the wrench doesn't fit.

so, what do you guys think? just go to a dealer? somebody suggested hammering a screwdriver through it but there's hardly room for that too.

im' guessing i have to take it to the dealer, have them take off the filter, and then fill it up with new oil again.

[TIMMYDUCK]

Take appropriate sized phillips head screw driver and BFH and puncture it thru top 3rd of the filter.

Drive it thru both sides and twist problem solved.

[R7]

I've had that happen, mostly with the first oil change on a new bike. The screw driver trick is messy and doesn't always work. I've learned that breaking the oil filter free on a cold engine (hadn't run since the night before type cold) is MUCH easier than a hot engine, so before I even start my bike to bring it up to temp, I crack the oil filter and snug it back.

[slammp]

No the screwdriver is the way to go. Ive had to do that a few times - its messy but youll get it just take you time you nay have to punch a couple holes to get a good grip just be patient.

[xsiliconkid]

What bike is it?
On Ducati's you must warm the motor and oil first

[TomBrady]

I would strongly recommend picking up a 16" pair of Channel Locks ... They'll spin off anything without a lot of muss, fuss, or puncturing the filter. $22 @ lowe's / HD

http://www.toolup.com/channel-lock/460.html

[Pigman]

Get a honda car oil filter wrench and it will come off no problem...I have one that use all the time......pm me if u want to try it... Punch a hole can rip them then ur really screwed

[Stromper]

:iws:

If you can grab the reinforce ring next to the motor

I have 2 types that grab as you apply torque

When you put on the new one oil the rubber and the at least 3/4 turn passed contact

[scubasteveRR]

I had to use these on my firs oil change.

I would strongly recommend picking up a 16" pair of Channel Locks ... They'll spin off anything without a lot of muss, fuss, or puncturing the filter. $22 @ lowe's / HD

http://www.toolup.com/channel-lock/460.html

[Eric Baker]

Depending on how much room is around the filter and it's location, you could do the screwdriver thing. If it's anything like my R6, there is almost no clearance on the sides except for a small space at the bottom. If you can get straight on to the end, you can use the biggest flathead srcrewdriver you can find and hammer it in there, then crank on it with some pliers.

[mojobreakfast]

I take a standard, cheap-o universal oil filter wrench like the one above, and I have a band of thick, knobbied rubber that I wrap around the oil filter first. I forget where the rubber came from but it's some kind of building material I had left over. This will remove even the most satanic of stuck oil filters. The rubber grips the filter and keeps it from slipping. Of course these wrenches will not usually fit in recessed areas. Works great on my own 08 Honda CBR tho. The factory filter was pretty well wrenched on there and I popped it off in 1 second with this method.

[TTD]

I have the metal "caps" that go over the filter. They grip the entire filter from the outside edges and then you put a wrench on the cap.

They work great.

Also, it's not quite true to only put a filter on hand tight. There is an actual torque setting.

However, this is a great reason to use a hose clamp on the filter. Costs $2 and takes 2 minutes... and then you can tighten the filter just enough and not have to worry about it loosening.

[Jim]

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If you have an R6, go with what Tony said.

If you have your filter in front of the radiator, you may not get enough clearance if you have aftermarket headers.

[khuygie88]

I would strongly recommend picking up a 16" pair of Channel Locks ... They'll spin off anything without a lot of muss, fuss, or puncturing the filter. $22 @ lowe's / HD

http://www.toolup.com/channel-lock/460.html

[CBR929RE]

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If you have an R6, go with what Tony said.

If you have your filter in front of the radiator, you may not get enough clearance if you have aftermarket headers.

what the hell bike has an oil filter in front of the radiator? I honestly thought you were better than that, guess you proved me wrong

[scr1be]

the problem is it's a 2007 honda cbr600rr. the filter is between 2 other things so i don't have a "direct" line of sight to it.

so the only way was to get one of those "sockets" that cup the oil filter and then attach a ratchet to the end of that.

even though i did that it was too tight. there's really no clearance for all of those other tools.

and in front of the oil filter is my headers.


i think my only choice is to put the socket-cup thingy over the filter and find a LONG ratchet wrench for more leverage.

[csmutty]

the problem is it's a 2007 honda cbr600rr. the filter is between 2 other things so i don't have a "direct" line of sight to it.

so the only way was to get one of those "sockets" that cup the oil filter and then attach a ratchet to the end of that.

even though i did that it was too tight. there's really no clearance for all of those other tools.

and in front of the oil filter is my headers.


i think my only choice is to put the socket-cup thingy over the filter and find a LONG ratchet wrench for more leverage.

Nope...you have a spare pair of handlebars? I use those on the end of my wrench all the time. That or a section of pipe.

[joeswamp]

Or you could just spring for a breaker bar, which is what you're supposed to use anyway for breaking free really tight stuff -- much less likely to suddenly let go if you apply too much torque. Comes with a longer handle than a ratchet, and you can also slip a pipe over it (although you're not supposed to).

[csmutty]

Or you could just spring for a breaker bar, which is what you're supposed to use anyway for breaking free really tight stuff -- much less likely to suddenly let go if you apply too much torque. Comes with a longer handle than a ratchet, and you can also slip a pipe over it (although you're not supposed to).

Just like I'm supposed to follow the speed limit on the street too right?

[joeswamp]

Just like I'm supposed to follow the speed limit on the street too right?

Very good analogy

[mojobreakfast]

I have an 08 CBR600RR, so same as yours. The oil filter location is a little tight but really not that bad. As I mentioned, my factory filter was on there like a mofo. But with the cheesy universal filter wrench and a chunk of rubber to keep it from slipping, it WILL pop right off. Don't be afraid to put some back into it... you gotta give it a quick downward wrench, stand above the wrench and push it down real quick with your weight... the sucker will come off. Although it sounds like your previous owner probably put a filter on without lubing the gasket...

[Jim]

what the hell bike has an oil filter in front of the radiator? I honestly thought you were better than that, guess you proved me wrong

like my bike, aftermarket headers decreased the space to the filter. but if the bike is an R6, the oil filter is in a totally different location.

[CBR929RE]

like my bike, aftermarket headers decreased the space to the filter. but if the bike is an R6, the oil filter is in a totally different location.

you sure its not behind the radiator?

[Currently]

Right company ... Channel lock but wrong tool.



They are called oil filter pliers and the brand I have is made by KD Tools.
You will use them over and over again meaning it is a good tool to buy.
Never had it fail to remove an oil filter yet.

Mine looks like the one below ....

[RyanNicholson]

+1 on the filter pliers, they're awesome.

As far as the "cup" thing to go over the filter and use a ratchet with... if you're talking about what I think you are, they're really only good for putting the filter on, not taking it off. Its a used oil filter... doesn't matter if you F the thing up in the process.