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Hey guys,
I have a 2009 R1 that's currently my only bike. This year I did my first 2 trackdays, and I can see that I'm going to be doing a bunch more next year. While I don't necessarily mind track prepping the bike (takes maybe an hour), spending that hour to put all the blinkers and mirrors and stuff back on to ride on the street, only to pull it all off again for another trackday, isn't my favorite thing in the world.
For the last 6 months or so I've been starting to think pretty heavily about getting a second bike for the road, and keeping the R1 as track only. With that thought, I've only really considered Ducati. I love how they look, how they sound, and want to join that club. Every time I see one drive by, my heart always skips a beat, and I strain to get a good look, similar to how any motorhead will when they hear a Ferrari.
For most of that time I've been thinking about getting the new Hypermotard 848 which will be announced at the EICMA show in November. I grew up racing motocross, and like the idea of the upright riding position, light weight, and different look of the bike. I've sat on the Dorsoduro and current Hyper at Seacoast, and really like the Hyper.
The new hyper, while not yet announced has had lots of spy pics released, and sounds like a great progression. I've pored over the internet and know quite a bit about it and have seen all the pics, it sounds like it would scratch the itch I have.
However at my most recent Trackday (last monday), all those thoughts fundamentally changed. Someone was at the trackday on a shiny red Streetfighter 1098. The look, the sound, the style, everything about the bike oozes character and attitude. Seeing the bike actually ridden hard was awesome, the bike more than held it's own in the Blue group, passing tons of other bikes as effortlessly as a new liter bike (due to the great rider on it).
Yesterday I went to Seacoast and sat on one. It fit great, and looked like a million bucks.
From an overall looks perspective, I like the Streetfighter more. From a performance perspective, I think that it has an edge over the Hyper. From a riding position perspective, the hyper is probably a little more comfortable, but the tradeoff might be that it's less sporty.
So the debate I have in my head right now is which one to get. I've already told myself that I'd regret it if I sold the R1, so it's more a matter of which to get. I want something that makes me smile from ear to ear every time I ride it. Something that makes people stare. Something that you don't see every day. Right now I'm leaning Streetfighter.
Next weekend I'm going to test ride the Streetfighter, and we'll see how that goes. Maybe I can try the current model Hyper as well. As an aside, I'd be going for the 848 version of the Streetfighter, as $19k plus some accessories makes the 1098s a bit rich for my blood.
Anyway, just kind of voicing my thoughts. Does anyone have a current gen Hyper or a Streetfighter? How do you like them? Any considerations or suggestions about either bike? Which would you get?
Sorry for the rambling post, not sure that it all makes sense, but somehow in my head it does.
Thanks for listening, and for any advice you can offer!
-Fred
PS - Here's a site with all the most recent spy pics of the new Hyper
http://moto-choice.com/en/Press-Rele...-at-EICMA.html
Fred,
I ride a 2010 Streetfighter S. originally I bought it to be my Streetbike but after taking it up to the track this year i haven't rode it on the street at all, I was at the track this past Tuesday don't know if you did both days. the 1098 engine will have you grinning from ear to ear every time you ride it, it's fun to go to the track and people look at it and ask what the heck is that? however it does not like going slow (under 2500 RPM), in traffic the bike can be downright a chore to ride. last year I got a chance to ride a Hyper 1100 at European bike day at the Museum of transportation, loved that bike and realized how much more comfortable and easy that bike is to ride on the street than my SFS 1098. if i had to do it again and I was to get a around town street bike I would get the hyper. but I love my SFS and like you said it holds its own at the track, gobs and gobs of torque however it's power delivery is a bit rougher than a full fairing 1098 and takes a bit getting used to. As my track riding skills improve I love the SFS more and more but if you already have a R1 you plan to track you may not want a second track bike? I hear good things about the SF 848 and that it may be a little bit more street friendly. either way I think whatever choice you make you'll be happy.
-Lionel
98' 748
2010 Streetfighter S
Both are great bikes, and are pretty different. It depends a good deal on your riding style, and on the way you use a bike. The StreetFighter definitely has the advantage in performance, while the HyperMotard is a more versatile bike -- so that depends on whether you are mainly ride for fun and performance, or whether you want the bike to serve more purposes than that. Also, is your riding style more inclined to finesse and small careful inputs, or to manhandling the bike around? If the former, then the StreetFighter will better suit your style; I found it to be very responsive and delicate in its behavior, and well suited to a finessed approach. The HyperMotard, OTOH, is something you romp around on; it responds well to body english and physical activity.
PhilB
Last edited by PhilB; 10-14-12 at 01:15 PM.
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1993 Ducati Monster M900; 265,000 miles -- killed by minivan 30Oct17
I love that motor...same as my Multi. But the 1100ds gives me wood...tough decision! must suck to be you...!!!!
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I have a 2010 streetfighter (it is for sale). It's a great bike. 1098 performance and motor with livable ergonomics and a looks that kill. What more could you want in a streetbike? I can't see modifying it much, other than possibly a different seat and some tank grips.
The Hyper looks sick in real life! It's freaking tall though. I am not a fan of the techno-brutal design of the Streetfighters. But I think 999s were beautiful so what do I know?
Last edited by xxaarraa; 10-14-12 at 05:14 PM.
go hyper! the streetfighter scared me!
Sounds like a quality problem many would love to have.
@Gonz0 - Thanks for the insight man! I am looking to keep the R1 and have that be my track bike. I'm eyeing the SF as just a fun street bike. I like the idea of the more upright riding position (though not as upright as the Hyper). The owner of Seacoast cycles said the 848SF is a bit more forgiving and a little more oriented for the street with higher bars than the SFS, as well as less rake to the front wheel. I'm going to test ride both before I make a choice, but styling wise I like the SF better. I love the aggressive stance it has.
@PhilB - I am only going to be riding it for fun first and foremost, with performance coming second. I'm just looking for a hoot to bomb around on back country roads and up in the mountains of Maine and NH. I see what you mean about the different ways the two bikes handle, and am not sure which I'd prefer. I'm used to manhandling and powersliding on MX bikes, yet now use that finesse you mention on the R1. Not sure which I'd prefer, though my pace will definitely be a bit slower on road (I rarely am more than about 5mph from the speed limit), and am more into exploring and having a blast.
@Maxim_X - Why are you selling yours? How many miles are on it? How much are you selling it for? I agree, the looks kill, and the power seems intoxicating. I'm eyeing an 848, but mostly for price reasons.
I'm not in any rush to buy anything, but am saving along every month and will likely buy next spring.
Out in left field I could potentially consider selling the R1, but I just don't think I'd get a whole lot for it, and it's the sickest year/color combo I've seen. My biggest gripe with it on-road is when I do 300+ miles in a day, my wrists and back get sore. On the track though, it's awesome, and I think it's a great bike for that.
Goodnight guys, thanks for all the info, and for helping me think things through!
-Fred
I haven't listed it for sale yet but I'm ready to move on. I bought it this spring for a street ride. All summer I haven't put more than 1000 miles on it. I think it has 6-7k on it now. I'm looking for 10,000. Truthfully I used to ride much more on the street but since I've been bitten by the track bug riding a bad-assed bike on the street doesn't do it for me. I'll probably end up with something like a bmw gs800 or another sv650 for a primary street ride.
For "exploring and having a blast", and sticking to reasonable speeds, I'd pick the HyperMotard. I've never rode a bike that was that much fun. Below are my testride impressions of both:
PhilBOriginally Posted by PhilB
"A free man must be able to endure it when his fellow men act and live otherwise than he considers proper." -- Ludwig von Mises
1993 Ducati Monster M900; 265,000 miles -- killed by minivan 30Oct17
Hyper all the way. I'll never get rid of mine, it's the most fun I've ever had on the street. Way more rideable and comfy, and plenty sporty.
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Make sure you test ride the SF848 before you buy. Coming from an R1, Im betting you'll find it very underpowered. I sure did. (and I still bought an 848...although the SBK motor is completely different than the SF motor)
@PhilB - Thank you very much for the detailed impressions of both bikes! Based on what you said I think the bikes are now even in my head. The Hyper sounds like it still might be the total blast I'm looking for! Definitely going to test ride both!
@darkduc7 - Thanks for the input on the Hyper. I've heard that from more than a few people, including one at a trackday, and he seemed to hold his own from a speed perspective. That, combined with the awesome riding position, as well as the light weight and flickability seems like something I could really enjoy. The plot thickens!!
@jwm2k3 - Thanks for the suggestion, I'm definitely going to take a test ride on both before I decide. I had an R6 before the R1, and I'm hoping the power is in that neighborhood, but as long as it's reasonably peppy, I should be happy. I mean the more power the better, but my main interest is going to be a bike that's fun. If I find it super lacking, maybe I'd consider stepping up to the SF1098S, but I'd really prefer a little smaller motor if possible. I think ~130 should be enough for me to have fun and blast around back country roads.![]()
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You'll need to give yourself some time to adjust to the powerband of any of these twins. You will probably be up against the rev limiter until you adjust...but once you do you'll find the way these put the power to the ground intoxicating! Good luck with your test rides!!!
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