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Big NH (6/21/2019) motorcycle accident update

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZX-12R View Post
    Your conclusion is predicated on all parties being rational human beings. I anticipate there will be a few trying to squeeze blood from a stone.
    An attorney won’t try, unless they’re getting paid by the family.

    https://www.navytimes.com/veterans/2...otor-vehicles/

    Here’s what might happen, this victim is suing the RMV.

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    Re: Big NH (6/21/2019) motorcycle accident update

    It was especially interesting to learn that after years of hearing the driver had a few illicit & illegal drugs in his system at the time of the crash, they were barely trace amounts and "below the reporting limit". That also really stood out to me as most had him convicted of being under the influence of those drugs since the onset.

    Then we have an operator with a BAC of .135 (.08 is legally intoxicated in NH) crossing the center line and causing a catastrophic tire blowout on the tow vehicle.

    As tragic as this all is, I think they got this correct.

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    At least the MA RMV - notorious for political appointees - has fixed their reporting system.

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    Re: Big NH (6/21/2019) motorcycle accident update

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoneman View Post
    It was especially interesting to learn that after years of hearing the driver had a few illicit & illegal drugs in his system at the time of the crash, they were barely trace amounts and "below the reporting limit". That also really stood out to me as most had him convicted of being under the influence of those drugs since the onset.

    Then we have an operator with a BAC of .135 (.08 is legally intoxicated in NH) crossing the center line and causing a catastrophic tire blowout on the tow vehicle.

    As tragic as this all is, I think they got this correct.
    Made the NYT again, this stood out for me re. "tried in the press."

    Jay Duguay, a public defender who represented Mr. Zhukovskyy, declined to comment on the verdict. But Robin Melone, the president of the New Hampshire Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, said in a statement that the case had been “tried in the press from day one,” and that prosecutors had “hoped to ride that vitriol to a guilty verdict. Instead, the jury listened to the evidence, thought critically, and did its job.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/09/u...acquitted.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by whynot View Post
    Made the NYT again, this stood out for me re. "tried in the press."
    And right here on NESR!

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    Re: Big NH (6/21/2019) motorcycle accident update

    and now they're drop kickin his ass back home

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    This from the gov of NH is in my mind very inappropriate
    Governor Chris Sununu Statement on Zhukovskyy Trial
    Concord, NH – Today, Governor Chris Sununu issued the following statement after Volodymyr Zhukovskyy was found not guilty of all charges in the Randolph, NH crash that killed seven motorcyclists from the Jarheads Motorcycle Club on June 21, 2019:

    “The Fallen Seven did not receive justice today, and that is an absolute tragedy,” said Governor Chris Sununu. “I share in the shock, outrage, and anger that so many have expressed in the three years since the seven members of the Jarheads Motorcycle Club were taken from us. My heart goes out to their families, friends, and loved ones on this especially dark day.”
    a Jury found him not guilty and that should stand as fact. i like the guy and think for the most part he does a good job.. not sure why he has to stir the pot!

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    Re: Big NH (6/21/2019) motorcycle accident update

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoneman View Post
    It was especially interesting to learn that after years of hearing the driver had a few illicit & illegal drugs in his system at the time of the crash, they were barely trace amounts and "below the reporting limit". That also really stood out to me as most had him convicted of being under the influence of those drugs since the onset.

    Then we have an operator with a BAC of .135 (.08 is legally intoxicated in NH) crossing the center line and causing a catastrophic tire blowout on the tow vehicle.
    Where did you see that number? It wasn't on the story listed on the previous page

    A BAC of 0.135 is absolutely shitfaced (the legal limit in Australia is 0.05).. I had no idea the lead rider was intoxicated until I read the story from the previous page.

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    Re: Big NH (6/21/2019) motorcycle accident update

    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    Where did you see that number? It wasn't on the story listed on the previous page

    A BAC of 0.135 is absolutely shitfaced (the legal limit in Australia is 0.05).. I had no idea the lead rider was intoxicated until I read the story from the previous page.
    conflicting stories there too, I have seen as high as .16, double NH's prima facie .08

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUZ720 View Post
    This from the gov of NH is in my mind very inappropriate
    Governor Chris Sununu Statement on Zhukovskyy Trial
    Concord, NH – Today, Governor Chris Sununu issued the following statement after Volodymyr Zhukovskyy was found not guilty of all charges in the Randolph, NH crash that killed seven motorcyclists from the Jarheads Motorcycle Club on June 21, 2019:

    “The Fallen Seven did not receive justice today, and that is an absolute tragedy,” said Governor Chris Sununu. “I share in the shock, outrage, and anger that so many have expressed in the three years since the seven members of the Jarheads Motorcycle Club were taken from us. My heart goes out to their families, friends, and loved ones on this especially dark day.”
    a Jury found him not guilty and that should stand as fact. i like the guy and think for the most part he does a good job.. not sure why he has to stir the pot!

    Angling for the drink and ride pirate vote?

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    Re: Big NH (6/21/2019) motorcycle accident update

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM View Post
    Angling for the drink and ride pirate vote?
    Chris is kind of a dick to be honest and his gunstock bs isn't helping. He should've just hung out in the wings on this one, if anyone should be mad at anyone it's the drunk guy that killed his friends. Friends that all drank together and rode together so there's that to think about as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G21forme View Post
    Chris is kind of a dick to be honest and his gunstock bs isn't helping. He should've just hung out in the wings on this one, if anyone should be mad at anyone it's the drunk guy that killed his friends. Friends that all drank together and rode together so there's that to think about as well.
    Generally, SUNUNU = Dick

    The friends and family of the deceased need an external “bad guy” on whom they can blame this because the admission that their behavior was at least a contributing factor may be too much for them.

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    Re: Big NH (6/21/2019) motorcycle accident update

    Quote Originally Posted by MUZ720 View Post
    This from the gov of NH is in my mind very inappropriate
    Governor Chris Sununu Statement on Zhukovskyy Trial
    Concord, NH – Today, Governor Chris Sununu issued the following statement after Volodymyr Zhukovskyy was found not guilty of all charges in the Randolph, NH crash that killed seven motorcyclists from the Jarheads Motorcycle Club on June 21, 2019:

    “The Fallen Seven did not receive justice today, and that is an absolute tragedy,” said Governor Chris Sununu. “I share in the shock, outrage, and anger that so many have expressed in the three years since the seven members of the Jarheads Motorcycle Club were taken from us. My heart goes out to their families, friends, and loved ones on this especially dark day.”
    a Jury found him not guilty and that should stand as fact. i like the guy and think for the most part he does a good job.. not sure why he has to stir the pot!
    "I've got a great idea... people already hate cops, and hate taking responsibility for their actions, let's make them hate the justice system, too."

    Sununu, probably

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    Survivors of New Hampshire motorcycle crash that killed 7 urge a judge to keep trucker off the road
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/survivors...175115942.html
    Days before the five-year anniversary of a crash that killed seven motorcyclists, relatives and friends urged New Hampshire officials Wednesday not to allow the trucker involved back on the state's roadways.

    A jury in 2022 found Volodymyr Zhukovskyy not guilty of multiple manslaughter and negligent homicide counts stemming from the June 21, 2019, collision in Randolph that killed seven members of the Jarheads Motorcycle Club, an organization of Marine Corps veterans and their spouses in New England.

    An administrative law judge for the Department of Safety in May said Zhukovskyy is subject to a state law that allows his license to be suspended for up to seven years. The hearing Wednesday was held to determine the length of the license suspension, a decision expected in the next 15 days.

    The state is asking that Zhukovskyy's license be suspended through 2031. The trucker's attorney wants the suspension to end now by backdating the start to 2019 and suspending the final two years of the maximum for good behavior.

    Wedneday's hearing was dominated by witnesses who knew those who died or rode with them that day. They recounted the devastation wrought by the loss of parents and good friends and demanded that Zhukovskyy not get his license back. Many cited his history of collisions and driving infractions leading up to the 2019 crash.

    “Someone that caused such incredible, horrible pain to so many people has the audacity to say ‘I want my privilege back,’” said David Bark, a member of the Jarheads. “It’s not a constitutional right to drive a car, to operate a motor vehicle on a public access highway. This is a privilege.”

    Dawn Brindley, who was riding with the motorcyclists when the crash happened, was among several people who blamed Zhukovskyy for it despite him being found not guilty. She recalled “seeing bodies on fire and pieces of my friends scattered on the road” and said Zhukovskyy had scarred her forever.

    “You don’t deserve to operate any type of vehicle in my state of New Hampshire,” she said. “You don’t deserve to be walking around free while families and loved ones that fell victim that day share the heartbreaking, horrific memories.”

    David Hilts, representing the state, argued for the longest suspension possible, citing Zhukovskyy's history of crashes and driving infractions.

    “It is clear that the members of the traveling public in New Hampshire would be protected, and must be protected to the maximum extent possible by suspending Mr. Zhukovskyy's nonresident operating privilege for as long as the law allows,” Hilts said.

    Zhukovskky, appearing by video with his lawyer, expressed his “deepest condolences” to the victims of the crash and their families and said he had been sober for five years. “At this point, I don’t do drugs. I don’t drink or smoke. You know, I live a good, healthy lifestyle,” he said.

    His lawyer, Earle Wingate III, urged the decision on the length of the suspension “not be made on emotion, but rather on the facts.”

    Zhukovskyy’s Massachusetts license was automatically suspended in New Hampshire after his arrest following the crash, but he is seeking to get it reinstated.

    At his trial, prosecutors argued that Zhukovskyy repeatedly swerved back and forth before the collision and told police he caused it.

    At the time, Zhukovskyy’s license should have been revoked because he had been arrested in Connecticut on a drunken driving charge in May 2019. Connecticut officials alerted the Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles, but Zhukovskyy’s license wasn’t suspended due to a backlog of out-of-state notifications about driving offenses. The Connecticut case is pending.

    Zhukovskyy, who came to the U.S. as a child from Ukraine and had permanent residency status, was detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement after the 2022 verdict. A judge ordered his deportation last year, but the U.S. has paused repatriation flights to Ukraine due to the war with Russia and authorized Temporary Protected Status for qualified Ukrainians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriskyDingo View Post
    Survivors of New Hampshire motorcycle crash that killed 7 urge a judge to keep trucker off the road
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/survivors...175115942.html
    I'm not saying the kid is Citizen of the Year material. But again, let's just ignore some very important facts. Most importantly, some of the riders were well beyond legally intoxicated and THEY were also swerving.

    I can't express my sympathies enough to all those involved. But to continually try to place blame on just this one individual (who was found not guilty by a jury) for this mess is incredibly irresponsible.

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